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While the incident in Boston was a case of a manhunt for a terror suspect there was something a bit scary going on. For a time in Watertown and the City of Boston the Constitution was suspended for all people living in that zone. They even did not read the suspect his Miranda Rights when they arrested him. They have already classified him as a enemy combatant. Constitution suspended. The climate of fear ( what a terrorist really wants) was everywhere. I wonder how far this 'lockdown' would have been extended or if martial law would ave been declared. No, I do consider the capture important, but even in times of crisis the Constitution must stand.

What I saw in Boston is what a police state looks like. That combined with the recent prosecutions of whistleblowers and people like Aaron Swartz tell me that we are in the early stages of the death of the Bill of Rights and the fascist state isn't that far off.

Date: 2013-04-22 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djdig.livejournal.com
As a MA resident, I agree with the decision not to read him his Miranda rights as the 2nd suspect was pulled out of his hiding spot.

I believe he will be read his rights, and may have already had that done at the hospital.

At the time, he was apprehended, he wouldn't have comprehended that his rights were read anyway. He was losing so much blood, that many watching worried he wouldn't survive.

Also, he & his brother were armed, and had killed already that day, and threw bombs & grenades at the police. It was a national security matter to subdue the suspect at that time.

Date: 2013-04-22 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n6vfp.livejournal.com
I guess I disagree. He is a United States citizen. As of this time they have yet to read him his rights, they have yet not allowed a lawyer to be present during questioning. If they can be allowed to treat any citizen this way, they can do the same for all citizens. No, this whole mess about Guantanamo and enemy combatants is just wrong. He is a criminal, he is entitled to a fair trial, and even though he committed a crime, he is entitled to the same rights as any American under the Constitution. I see the 'war on terror' as one more way that the government is bending the rules to allow them to pretty much make a mockery of justice. There have been other recent victims such as Aaron Swartz, and Barret Brown, both of which are examples of overreach by the feds. I also find it appalling that Obama has authorized the killing of citizens abroad without due process. No trial, no jury, just a drone strike.

Date: 2013-04-22 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djdig.livejournal.com
They're not classifying him as an enemy combatant & he'll get a federal trial: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57580752/boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-formally-charged-in-hospital/

I'm OK with the "public safety exception" - questioning the suspect on matters of immediate threats.

2 of my friends live in Watertown & had SWAT search their houses on Friday.

My husband went to high school with a bombing victim that has lost his legs. We both went to college with a cousin of the 29 year old who died at the Boston Marathon.

The state is shaken, but we don't want a lynch mob. We want a trial.

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